A Weighty Matter
"This is a religious war, not against Islam but for Christianity, for a Christian nation." -- Ann Coulter
Over at 181/2 minute gap I saw some very disturbing information.
I find it more disturbing in the light of the Tommy Franks interview where Mr Franks states his belief that Americans will be comfortable with a more militarized nation lacking the thing that keeps us somewhat safe from a Fascist sort of government. Our Constitution.
"Fascist" is a lightening rod of a word. I'd like you to put it aside. Keep an open mind. Judge for yourself what "a more militarized America" without our Constitutional rights means. What putting an end to this 227 year old experiment in representational government means to "We the People", the "Demos" in Democracy, to our future and to that of our children, and their children and theirs. On and on.
A weighty matter.
My goal is to cut government in half in twenty-five years, to get it down to the size where we can drown it in the bathtub.”-- Grover Norquist
Are you aware of religious fundamentalist Steven John Jordi and his plot to blow up some abortion clinics, churches he didn't believe in and gay nightclubs? Are you also aware that a paid government informant encouraged him in his proposed attacks, offering him and his family tickets to fly to one of Jordi's correspondents execution, that of Paul Hill who killed a Pensacola doctor who performed abortions and the doctors volunteer escort. Jordi's family was also to get money if Jordi went through with his plot. The informant and Jordi bought
gasoline cans, flares, starter fluid and propane tanks. Jordi bought also a .45-caliber pistol, silencer and empty magazines for $200 on the day of his arrest.
Before the fundamentalist could start his killing spree his relatives and church members turned him in.
About his prosecution
Prosecutors, who say Jordi described himself as a terrorist, must prove that he took substantial steps toward launching a bombing spree across the eastern United States. The FBI said Jordi cased several South Florida abortion clinics and talked about bombing one in Georgia.
The indictment discarded the original charge of soliciting arson, which requires a higher standard of proof that Jordi tried to get someone, in this case an informant, to join the bomb plot.
"They backed off what the criminal complaint said," Assistant Federal Public Defender Marc Seitles said outside court. "The government informant was the major player in inducing Mr. Jordi to act on his religious beliefs."
Pat Robertson has advocated blowing up the state department:
How do we get rid of them?" he said of State officials meddling with his business interests. "Maybe we need a very small nuke thrown off on Foggy Bottom to shake things up."
He has, of course backpedaled on his statement, but not before the folks who support him heard it. He had his say.
Mr Robertson was upset with the fact that the State Department and the UN imposed sanctions against his murderous partner in a Liberian gold mining venture, exiled dictator Charles Taylor. Robertsons partner escaped a Massachusetts prison before he got back to his country to seize power there. The UN has indicted him on war crimes. Taylor is linked to Al Quaida
Violence preached seems OK when it is by right-wing Christian zealots. At least it seems not very mainstream media newsworthy.
Now if a noted "Liberal" said that...
Weapons of mass destruction have been found in Texas. White supremacist anti-government types had them.
Investigators have seized at least 100 other bombs, bomb components, machine guns, 500,000 rounds of ammunition and chemical agents. But the government also found some chilling personal documents indicating that unknown co-conspirators may still be free to carry out what appeared to be an advanced plot. And, authorities familiar with the case say more potentially deadly cyanide bombs may be in circulation.
A package got to the wrong addresee, the government authorities protecting us didn't ferret out the plan. Luck saved many lives. We hope.
Now if these folks got/get away with the mayhem they planned, what do you think would/will happen to our Constitution? Would you feel good about giving up your freedoms and accept a police state, a more militarized America?
Great Britain has laws dictating a police state if such things happen there. Franks has given us fair warning that it could happen here. Have you considered what a code red terrorist alert would mean to us?
How did tapes of the 9/11 massacre that the FBI had get into the hands of Al Quaida?
The FBI says it is familiar with the video, which was provided by a friendly bystander.
But that raises the question — how did a tape that was not widely circulated end up on a known al-Qaida site?
History shows that in the cases of Dictators such as Mussolini and Hitler the populace needs to be scared for the Dictator to be able to prop up his regime, because the will of the people matters. Your average citizen will not accede to a dictatorship readily. Without willing supporters such a movement cannot be sustained. Economic distress does wonders for allowing a people to want a secure, authoritarian "savior" as well. Media collusion is important to shape the attitudes of the people and keep them malleable and not overly panicked. To tell them how to process all that they hear and see. And industry, just as in Mussolini and Hitler's times, must be behind the motive force for the Dictatorship. As Mussolini, the creator of the term Fascism spoke of the phenomena himself:
Fascism should more properly be called corporatism since it is the merger of state and corporate power
Consider how the inroads Multinational Corporations have made on our governance. The fact that the limited Democracy our Republic offers does stymie some bottom line enhancing legislation even with the showering of lobbyist dollars that tinge the votes. How much neater a Republic in lockstep.
I'd ask you to consider what segment of the population would support a right-wing authoritarian extra-Constitutional leader. who amongst us would be comfortable enforcing this new order.
If the Democrats start extolling you – get a gun. --Ann Coulter
I have been pretty busy lately and have not check out Orcinus 'til today.
He has covered a some of the ground I just did in the last week. I'd urge you to check his work often. I gleaned the last Coulter quote there.
I'll close for today. Please take some time to consider how acceptable right-wing violence has become. While the people that mailed the anthrax letters are free, folks like Tommy Chong are doing jail time for selling such things as artful glass pipes that could be used to smoke cannabis.
Consider what it means to have people like Ann Coulter mainstream. Considered as part of accepted civil discourse. For it to be acceptable to shoot protesters in the back with rubber bullets as they walk away to where the police directed them. We are seeing a cultural change. Not one our forefathers would have accepted or appreciated. Not one that an informed people free to think accept.
I'll pick up the thread tomarrow. And examine the Janklow case.
"Signs of Economic Recovery Haven't Trickled Down" by Mark Weisbrot and "Hopes for Bright Retail Season Fade With Mixed Results" by Anne d'Innocenzio point out the obvious- things around here are not as rosy as the TV tells you. I offer these as a follow up to my post of a few days ago discussing the same idea